FORUM NOTES - JANUARY 31st 2010
BOOK DISCUSSION REMINDER;
Let get the forum started.
jessenia {Ramses} 19:29:17 pm CST
someone will have to scribe.. jesse cant on this laptop
Xertog 19:31:24 pm CST
Send me any topic suggestions via whispers. I had a couple of carry over topics
from last week. I thought I saved them but I don't seem to have them.. So if you
sent me a topic last week that we didn't get to sned it to me again.
Xertog 19:33:36 pm CST
Do we have somebody to scribe?
snowrose{LT} 19:33:40 pm CST
If no one else can, snow will scribe
nasreen{TH} 19:33:42 pm CST
this one isn't sure how long she is going to last...she has been sick ...so she
would like it if some one could scribe...also...sorry jessenia and Master Xertog..
Xertog 19:35:09 pm CST
Very good snowrose.
nasreen{TH} 19:35:28 pm CST
thank you snowrose..smiles
vina {N's property} 19:36:13 pm CST
~looks to her tag, making sure it meets requirements
Xertog 19:36:39 pm CST
That works vina
Xertog 19:37:35 pm CST
Please keep greetings, departures, rp to whispers.
Ramses 19:38:22 pm CST
steps in and heads to My furs
Tal and greetings
Xertog 19:41:22 pm CST
A quick announcement. Well more of a reminder.
A weekly book discussion Tuesday 7:00PM GS time (Central
Time US/Canada) starting February 9th .. The book will be Raiders of Gor. This
books covers Port Kar more then the other books in the series.
Jarl Thorrn 19:41:52 pm CST
Tal and greetings
heads to My fur
vina {N's property} 19:41:55 pm CST
You said the first 100 or so pages are available at the link Master? is that
right? Jarl Thorrn 19:41:52 pm CST
Jarl Thorrn 19:43:19 pm CST
reads the book reading announcement, very good
Thadron 19:44:21 pm CST
I have started the reading, a very good choice to get the feel for Port Kar
Xertog 19:45:07 pm CST
I looked at it again vina. The first 48.5 pages are there.. Then there are gaps
between other groups of pages. I estimate there is only about 45% of the book
there. It is a free preview. So be good to get somebody through the first week
not much more then that.
nasreen{TH} 19:45:48 pm CST
girl has started reading it also..
Ramses 19:46:19 pm CST
Thadron, I thought it was a good choice as well
vina {N's property} 19:46:44 pm CST
~nods her head...
yes Master, it would suffice until i could get a copy..
pazia{GS} 19:47:15 pm CST
pazia knows of site that lets pple download the books for free
Jarl Thorrn 19:47:36 pm CST
just a quick question at the book forum
a link to the book has been mentioned
can that link be reposted here?
Xertog 19:50:39 pm CST
I'd like for us to start a glossary of the book. It would include things like
plants, animals, weapons, quotes that describe Port Kar. Other quotable quotes.
Any other suggestions for it?
We could compile it each week and post it on the message board and perhaps when
Laroona gets back I will see about a place on the GS web pages for it.
vina {N's property} 19:51:23 pm CST
wonderful idea Master Xertog
~smiles warmly
Thadron 19:51:55 pm CST
aye, ship descriptions, buildings in Port Kar, transportation
nasreen{TH} 19:52:33 pm CST
nodding her head..that is a good idea Master Xertog
Thadron 19:52:58 pm CST
there are many animals mentioned in that book, the uses and harvest of rence..
lots of interesting things to catalog
pazia{GS} 19:52:59 pm CST
girl wonders will there ever be raids here or other non peacful Gorean ways
nasreen{TH} 19:54:08 pm CST
and for those that mentioned cake....there is a rence cake mentioned....
Xertog 19:54:35 pm CST
Yes that type of thing Thadron.
Xertog 19:56:03 pm CST
Yes there is rence cake nasreen. Not to be confused with anything your mother
may have baked.. lol
nasreen{TH} 19:56:54 pm CST
good thing it wasn't any thing this girls mom baked.....all would have been
sick....sorry mom...rest in peace.
Thadron 19:56:59 pm CST
I'm looking forward to the discussion, Xertog
Xertog 19:59:58 pm CST
pazia we did have an unfriendly encounter when we opening of a new tur-wood
preserve not that long ago. Other such things could also happen.
Jarl Thorrn 20:00:02 pm CST
repeates this:
a link to the book has been mentioned
can that link be reposted here?
Thadron 20:01:15 pm CST
Port Kar was opened as a Role Play room, for just that kind of activity, Pazia
vina {N's property} 20:01:39 pm CST
yes Jarl, i will locate it for You..please hold
nasreen{TH} 20:01:42 pm CST
goes to the board finds the link
books.google.com/books?id=emnhwe03yawC&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_v2_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q=&f=false
vina {N's property} 20:03:10 pm CST
books.google.com/books?id=emnhwe03yawC&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_v2_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q=&f=false
pazia{GS} 20:05:24 pm CST
Thank You Masters its just that everytime girl comes here its dead of late and
didnt k if that happens here
Xertog 20:07:02 pm CST
That is just a preview of the book Thorrn.
The preview has only parts of the book but it has 48 out of 48.5 pages that will
be covering in the first week. I estimate that there is only about 45% of the
book there. Not enough do to with out buying the book.
pazia{GS} 20:08:51 pm CST
girl has that link to the siter lets u download them for free if Master wants it
pazia{GS} 20:09:01 pm CST
cite*
Thadron 20:09:05 pm CST
pazia, nothing is keeping you from starting a role play in Port Kar when you are
here... that has worked some in the past
pazia{GS} 20:10:07 pm CST
girl is knew to this place still is learing so she doesnt k exactly how to get
things rolling here
Jarl Thorrn 20:12:05 pm CST
that would be nice to have that link, pazia
*s*
pazia{GS} 20:13:08 pm CST
may girl post it Masters
Xertog 20:13:53 pm CST
What is this link to pazia?
pazia{GS} 20:14:39 pm CST
it lets all to download the books and read them as if its a word document
Xertog 20:15:06 pm CST
I'd like for us to be careful that nothing is done in GS that violates any
copyright laws.
pazia{GS} 20:16:09 pm CST
its legal Master girl has used it many times and so has all of girls friends
that are interested in gor
Xertog 20:18:22 pm CST
I don't think that link is comes under John Normans copyright. He doesn't give
copies of his books out for free. He charges people to download it on
snowrose{LT} 20:19:28 pm CST
should snow remove it from the scroll Master
Jarl Thorrn 20:20:08 pm CST
may be pazia can whisper it to those who would want to have itline.
Xertog 20:21:01 pm CST
Yes snowrose.
Xertog 20:29:07 pm CST
Lets move on to another topic.
vina {N's property} 20:29:17 pm CST
ok, is there another topic? or are we on the same one?
Xertog 20:31:41 pm CST
A carry over topic from last week as sent to me.
Slaves having to speak 3rd person in Gorean Shores, they couldn't find quotes
where it was done in the books, just quotes that it was used for punishment..
vina {N's property} 20:32:00 pm CST
i personally think it should be used as punishment
vina {N's property} 20:32:42 pm CST
GS always says it tries to conform to the ways of the books...so, i believe the
same should be true with 3rd person speech
pazia{GS} 20:33:40 pm CST
girl thinks that it is good to use at times as away to disguish who is Free and
who isnt but here we already have enough ways and girl thinks if it isnt done in
the books it seems unessary here but this only what girl thinks and begs pardon
if it inproperat for a slave
Xertog 20:34:11 pm CST
From the World of Gor web site:
To Speak as a Slave
There are many, who claim that 'in the books', a slave girl does not always use
the form of third person speech. If this is basically true, it certainly
warrants another look as to the intent of using, or making slaves use this form.
Norman gives use many clues as to how the kajira is expected to conduct herself
in order to both please, and make statements about her slavery. The rules that
pertain to how a girl may speak are never merely a matter of whim, each one of
them impresses upon the girl, the fact that her existence has the sole purpose
of pleasing, and that failing to do so, as well as failing to remember this
purpose, is punishable.
Third person speech throughout the adventures of Tarl Cabot on the counter
earth, is often described as 'slave speech', a reminder that the girl has, in
fact, no status. When a master wants to remind his girl of this simple fact, he
will often demand that she speak this way. Too, in the throes of passion,
without being told, or when begging, the girls the reader meets in these books
naturally revert to this form of language.
orldofgor.com/reference.aspx?rpID=24
kadife{GS} 20:34:23 pm CST
slave girls do say i and me in all the bits of the books this girl has looked at
on line
Ramses 20:34:43 pm CST
I've never been one to advocate 3rd person, especially if its not in the books
vina {N's property} 20:34:44 pm CST
i see where you are coming from pazia...there are other ways to recognize slaves
from Free... lower case names for instance is a huge give away
Thadron 20:35:17 pm CST
coming from BDSM to Gor, I found the universal use by Gorean Shores slaves of
3rd person a very good way to establish some kind of Master/slave dialog to
bridge the gap from vt to something more real... I understand it's only
something adopted by GS, but I liked it from the beginning
vina {N's property} 20:36:33 pm CST
i would have to agree that it would be the preference of the Master as well...
Xertog 20:37:08 pm CST
It is used more then just for punishment it was used when a girl begged and when
a free demands it to remind a slave of her place as something owned not as an
equal.
najla{Xg-L} 20:38:32 pm CST
maybe it should be up to the Master/ Mistress, how HIS/HER slave should speak...
naj only knows third in GS and would prefer to keep it...
snowrose{LT} 20:38:46 pm CST
girl think it is a good form of punishment...it tells everyone that she has not
been pleasing..it shames her...on the other hand this one goes to 3rd person to
serve..it comes naturally then...but not in speech
pazia{GS} 20:39:59 pm CST
girl agrees with snow
Xertog 20:40:04 pm CST
The Council over the last couple of years has changed other things to make them
more like the books. This is also something that could be changed. Until it is,
if it is, the GS current rules should be followed.
vina {N's property} 20:40:21 pm CST
exactly...i agree with snow
Jarl Thorrn 20:40:47 pm CST
Whenit is not a general rule to use 3rd person speak it can be used by a slave
to express special moments when she wants (or needs) to express her status
expressively ... moments when she knows she did wrong or just the opposite when
she feels her need for being a slave especially deep
Thadron 20:42:38 pm CST
aye, it would be pleasing to hear a slave use it to show their slave heart of
her own accord... but I agree to follow the Councils ruling until such time a
change is made
snowrose{LT} 20:45:34 pm CST
yes my Master...even alone with You she sometimes reverts to 3rd person...but in
normal speech she finds it stilted and not as clear to express meaning as first
person.not as nuanced
Xertog 20:46:02 pm CST
I'll bring this up to the Council and I'll see where it goes.
Xertog 20:47:13 pm CST
Time for a new topic.
Jarl Thorrn 20:47:24 pm CST
nods to My slave
It can be used like spice .... the right amount makes the meal more enjoyable,
the wrong amout has no effect or kills the taste of the meal
*l*
Xertog 20:48:49 pm CST
It's been two weeks since we had the festival. I'd be interested in thoughts
anybody had regarding it. I'm looking for feed back.
pazia{GS} 20:49:43 pm CST
pazia was really sad she missed it and from what she hears it sounds like it was
fun and she cant wait tell a next thing
Jarl Thorrn 20:50:39 pm CST
I coulnd´t attend all events but those i was aible to go to where fine.
It was a good opportunity to meet people of GS and have fun together
I liked the festival
snowrose{LT} 20:53:25 pm CST
a girl really enjoyed her time at the festival Master
Xertog 20:56:09 pm CST
Anybody disappointed by any of it? It's ok to be critical. It is why I put it
out here
Jarl Thorrn 20:57:49 pm CST
no, not disappointed about anything Xertog
just one thing, there was a schedule and i found that things never happened when
they have been scheduled
*l*
Xertog 20:59:40 pm CST
Thorrn the problem was more that some things that were scheduled never happened
at all.
Jarl Thorrn 21:00:33 pm CST
thinks that i noticed too, the games in the tavern didn´t happen
But the festival was a lof of fun anyways
Xertog 21:02:51 pm CST
The forum is emptying out so I don't think I'll brother addressing it further
perhaps I'll bring it up next week.
I'm glad that those here enjoyed themselves. I thought the turn out was weak.
Certain events we simple could not do because we didn't have enough people.
pazia{GS} 21:03:31 pm CST
girl wonders when the next one will be Master
Jarl Thorrn 21:04:29 pm CST
in all the time i´ve been at GS now this has been the first festival i attented,
so may be that made being satisfied *l*
It was a good start and maybe it should be repeated without a big leap in time
Xertog 21:05:50 pm CST
pazia we use to do them twice a year. I have organized 5 of them.
pazia{GS} 21:06:31 pm CST
*smiles* girl cant wait
Jarl Thorrn 21:08:26 pm CST
twice a year sounds good
Xertog 21:08:37 pm CST
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